grumpy 0 Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Pozdrav, Imam e61 lci sa n47 motorom od 130kw kome se izgleda pomalo čuje lanac. Nađoh da u zamenskom setu ide natezač sa drugim kat. brojem koji je uzgred 5mm duži od onoga iz prve ugradnje. Da li je neko radio takav servis, da još malo produži život lanca ili da odmah planiram zamenu čitavog seta. Link to post Share on other sites
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somi92 0 Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Eno ispod tema gde je pukao lanac na x3 sa tim motorom, procitaj pa vidi isplati li se budzenje ili da menjasSent from my EML-L29 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
grumpy 0 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Ne budžim ja ništa, na sajtu ovlašćenog servisa u CG, Voli motors, stoji akcija provere pogonskog lanca gde ide zamena natezača pri proveri. Dakle, da li je neko od servisera radio ovakvu kontrolu i na ovaj način? Ja u svakom slučaju skupljam pare za veliki servis. Kopka me jedino to što ovlašćeni radi tu "budževinu". Link to post Share on other sites
vranjin 0 Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Nekoliko puta sam bio u Voli motors i kroz razgovor shvatih da im gazda ne dozvoljava buzdenja. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
grumpy 0 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 52 minutes ago, vranjin said: Nekoliko puta sam bio u Voli motors i kroz razgovor shvatih da im gazda ne dozvoljava buzdenja. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Pa to me i zanima, ako ovlašćeni u CG radi takvu proveru uz zamenu natezača, da li je to jedno od rešenja, i radi li to isto i Delta u Srbiji. Link to post Share on other sites
Zeljkamp 0 Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Postoji alat za proveru zategnutosti lanca ali se na modelima tih godina obicno predlaze zamena kompletnog seta. Da kod mene u automobilu zvecka lanac, ne bih imao dilemu sta treba da radim. Link to post Share on other sites
vranjin 0 Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 nemam pojma da li ti radi i Delta tako ili bilo kako. A što ti reče Zeljkamp, menjaj lanac i to što pre. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
somi92 0 Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 Ako ce ti servis dati garanciju od xx kkm ili neki vremenski period da nece puci lanac onda radi tako... Ako je na rec onda je svaka diskusija dalja nepotrebnaSent from my EML-L29 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
mzex 0 Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 Read Measure S Measure no. 43863106-06Thread N47, N47S, N47T, friction noise in the engine,Scrape the distribution chain Release Date (dd.mm.yyyy) 11/08/2012Freed State organization, Vehicles affected carE-seriesE61 E60 E81 E82 E83E87 E84 E88 E90 E91E93 E92 F10 F11 F20F30 F25 F31EngineN47S N47 N47T N47DK0BodyProduction time(From / to) (dd.mm.yy)/CommentProduction timeComments (if To measure) (dd.mm.yy)ComplaintScraping, polishing engine noise about 1500 1/min, which is inside perceptible.Noise can be good in the gearbox or sump be perceived.CauseSharpness of the sprockets or the chain is not running uniformly overSlides.MeasureThree cases are distinguished as follows:Case 1:For motors N47, N47DK0, N47S, period 01/03/2007 to 05/01/2009 production.In the case of a customer complaint, the following components must be replaced:- 11 21 7 803 479 crankshaft bearing shells exchange.Note: Only crankshafts with manufacturing date from the fifth First 2009 only!The production date is stamped on the crankshaft sprocket. (SeePlant, Page 1)Meaning of the numbers:- The first two digits represent the production line.- The next six digits are the year (two digits), month, day.- The last 5 digits identify the item number of the crankshaft.Investment in the illustration on page 1 of the crankshaft is therefore October 21, 2009have.- 11 41 7 797 896 for the drive chain of the oil pump.- 11 31 8 506 652 below the chain.- 13 52 7 797 906 for driving gearwheel high pressure pump.- 11 27 7 800 523 Gear (intermediate balance shafts).- 11 27 7 802 575 gear (drive shaft balance).- 11 27 7 802 576 gear (drive shaft balance).- 11 31 8 510 014 top chain.- 11 31 7 797 899 for guide rail above distribution chain.- 13 52 8 572 499 for the guide rail below the chain.- 13 52 8 572 500 to the rail voltage below the chain.Note: right chain tension below the guide rails dampeduse! (SeeAttachment page 2)For the supply chain to just slide without using nerves! (SeeBox 3)Note: The intermediate balance shafts according to exactly repair instructions! SetIf the intermediate gear and balancer shafts down enough, theMotor despiteCrankshaft produce new sounds, etc!See Repair Manual November 21 500 "replace crankshaft."Note: For vehicles already in a previous repairCrankshaftwas renewed:These vehicles treated as described in the "Case 2".Case 2:For motors N47, N47DK0, N47S, N47T production period of 05.01.2009 to 01.03.2011In case of customer complaint, replace the following components:- 11 31 8 506 652 below the chain.- 13 52 7 797 906 for driving gearwheel high pressure pump.- 11 31 8 510 014 top chain.- 11 31 7 797 899 for guide rail above distribution chain.- 13 52 8 572 499 for the guide rail below the chain.- 13 52 8 572 500 to the rail voltage below the chain.Note: The screw connection for intermediate balance shafts should notmore dissolvedbe!Note: right chain tension below the guide rails dampeduse! (See Attachment page 2)For the supply chain to just slide without using nerves! (See Box 3)Note: For vehicles in which a repair already installed rails without stiffening ribs and replaced both timing chains were: These vehicleshow to treat "Case 3" described.Case 3:For the period N47T engine production and repair of committed 01.03.2011Guide rails without reinforcing ribs. In case of customer complaint, replace the following components- 11 31 8 506 652 below the chain.- 13 52 7 797 906 for driving gearwheel high pressure pump.- 11 31 8 510 014 top chain.- 13 52 8 572 499 for the guide rail below the chain.- 13 52 8 572 500 to the rail voltage below the chain.Note: The reference design, repair was shown on page 4 of the plant.Complaint: Error: error conditions: 11/21 CrankshaftSprocket Unit Control Noise11/21 Crankshaft Sprocket Wear Unit ControlMotor 11 the speed of sound 1000-2000U / minEngine11 Engine Noise11/00 Engine:Enforceability NIO Permanently11/31 Supply ChainCrankshaft Damage11/31Timing ChainCamshaftDamage11/31Unit ControlSlideReport this partCauseError: error:11/31 distribution chainCrankshaftNoiseActivityDepartmentLeadError CodeTC action:Progman / DIS / ISTA / ISTA / PSystem state versionEvaluation of operationCopyright © 2002-2012 BMW AG, Munich (Germany). All rights reserved. Link to post Share on other sites
mzex 0 Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Ako nije jasan ovaj case 3, on ide za sve motore od 01.03.2007me do 1.03.2011 za koje je vec radjena zamjena lanca prije 01.03.2011 Jasno je shta se mijenja ako ti zvecka lanac. Nemoj da budzhish. Edited April 15, 2019 by mzex Link to post Share on other sites
grumpy 0 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 Nema budženja, čekam ponudu za servis, pa da dogovorim čim pre može. Automobil je 2010.g sa svega 116k na satu, full servisna istorija, odrzavan svih godina u ovlašćenom servisu u Dojčlandu. Link to post Share on other sites
mzex 0 Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 Pa ako ti se chuje lanac, a oni ti predlozhili samo taj natezach da mjenjash, promijeni ti radije servis. Za tvoj auto ako se chuje lanac, mora da se mijenjaju sljedeci dijelovi: - 11 31 8 506 652 below the chain.- 13 52 7 797 906 for driving gearwheel high pressure pump.- 11 31 8 510 014 top chain.- 11 31 7 797 899 for guide rail above distribution chain.- 13 52 8 572 499 for the guide rail below the chain.- 13 52 8 572 500 to the rail voltage below the chain. To shto sam ti kopirao su interne instrukcije BMWa svojim ovashcenim servisima. Link to post Share on other sites
grumpy 0 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 7 hours ago, mzex said: Pa ako ti se chuje lanac, a oni ti predlozhili samo taj natezach da mjenjash, promijeni ti radije servis. Vidi, zvao danas ovlašćeni servis, dali su mi ponudu za full servis lanaca, i kažu kako rade proveru zategnutosti lanca, a u slučaju da hoću da odradim posle provere full servis (ako se lanac i dalje čuje) smanje mi račun za 60e koliko košta novi tip natezača. Link to post Share on other sites
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